tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2212741399857110313.post6066291511892224933..comments2024-03-11T11:13:12.066-05:00Comments on Homeschool and Etc.: Are Science and Social Studies Unimportant?Happy Elf Mom (Christine)http://www.blogger.com/profile/15047347624037697311noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2212741399857110313.post-44009293595571249952011-11-25T06:20:08.511-06:002011-11-25T06:20:08.511-06:00>>>I just meant that if we're measuri...>>>I just meant that if we're measuring progress, it should be that child's progress.<<<<br /><br />Accountability is a good thing, but there has to be a better way than being obsessed with testing.Usethebrains Godgiveyouhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05026223483117357541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2212741399857110313.post-86611017856575820202011-11-23T12:01:39.696-06:002011-11-23T12:01:39.696-06:00Oh man, in school I learned way more than just his...Oh man, in school I learned way more than just history. So much garbage was thrown at me. Because I didn't agree like the average kid with all the political stuff, kids would throw stuff at me. My dad said the government uses schools to train up our kids minds in the direction they want. I completely agree because less times was focused on actual history facts (which is why I stink at knowing much of it) and more time focused on political and even religious stuff. Now, I am getting history books so I can learn this stuff on my own.Virginia Revoirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12426979985073932937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2212741399857110313.post-49973968891490582692011-11-23T08:43:15.545-06:002011-11-23T08:43:15.545-06:00Luke, I am worried about homeschoolers and about e...Luke, I am worried about homeschoolers and about everyone else because even they can be influenced to teach to the test. I have read some stuff from Sonlight that suggests it is a tougher sell in areas where state testing is more strict. :(<br /><br />Tammy, they are not teaching Woodjie to read yet, but matching letters and recognizing them. I just picked that you as it is pretty much the only purely academic goal (in the conventional sense) they are working with.<br /><br />I just meant that if we're measuring progress, it should be that child's progress. Otherwise we leave gifted children to languish and overpush our barely underachievers. Might as well just give up on kids like Woodjie if the MAP test is all there is to educational life. :)Happy Elf Mom (Christine)https://www.blogger.com/profile/15047347624037697311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2212741399857110313.post-80547559466680785772011-11-23T08:37:43.524-06:002011-11-23T08:37:43.524-06:00River, I was being sarcastic. You bet something i...River, I was being sarcastic. You bet something is wrong when kids learn almost ONLY math and reading. TAKS is the Texas state test of achievement and MAP is Missouri's. <br /><br />Think of each state as being its own little country within our nation, if it makes it easier. There is a federal tax system and there are federal roads and federal laws, but that's about it. Each state ALSO has its own tax system, its own educational standards, and that sort of thing. It just can't conflict with - and operates under - the overall federal system. (That explains why, say, when an immigration law passes in Arizona it is challenged in federal court because some think the state is overstepping its bounds.)<br /><br />Well, that was clear as mud.Happy Elf Mom (Christine)https://www.blogger.com/profile/15047347624037697311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2212741399857110313.post-44689617081683060902011-11-23T07:54:46.148-06:002011-11-23T07:54:46.148-06:00No Child Left Untested, sigh.
I think it is awes...No Child Left Untested, sigh. <br /><br />I think it is awesome Woodjie is learning to talk, use the potty, etc. But, I'm not sold on teaching children to read in the preschool years. I think that time is better spent reading books together so they have the desire to learn to read when it's time, spending time learning about real things they will read about in their books (things outdoors and things indoors) through play and exploration, doing all sorts of things that kids do to build strong bodies and capable hands, etc. If a child wants to learn to read or is already teaching themselves, then a few lessons here and there help. Here is a sobering article that encourages you to think twice about overtly teaching preschoolers how to read: http://www.allianceforchildhood.org/sites/allianceforchildhood.org/files/file/crisis_in_early_ed.pdfwalkinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05046468024103932112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2212741399857110313.post-71938014473651195892011-11-23T07:49:15.742-06:002011-11-23T07:49:15.742-06:00[sigh] And people continue to worry about homescho...[sigh] And people continue to worry about homeschoolers... I'll say it again: When your system works, only then can you think about chatting with me about mine.<br /><br />I'm glad Woodjie has been making progress at school. That is fantastic! So it's not all bad news.<br /><br /> ~LukeLuke Holzmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07799632321310461828noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2212741399857110313.post-10875283185206958392011-11-23T04:04:05.321-06:002011-11-23T04:04:05.321-06:00I've read this twice now and something seems w...I've read this twice now and something seems wrong here but I'm not sure what exactly.<br />Fake grades for classes never given? Third graders learning only math and reading?<br />These kids are in school for hours each day and learning nothing of value beyond reading and math? <br />What is the MAP test?Riverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14794655013673748992noreply@blogger.com