Remember me grousing about the thin kid and our difficulty buying jeans? Found a website that not only carries strange sizes, but delivered to me in less than TWO full business days! Wow... and reasonable prices as well. http://www.sheplers.com/ Give 'em a try if you have a hard-to-fit child. G is very happy with the pants, and although Wranglers are not as "soft" as the pants he is used to, they fit MUCH better than anything else we've tried. Note also that this is a "boot cut," so there is room to grow, too.